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Post by grumperbear on Nov 10, 2007 10:29:07 GMT
Has anyone seen the new sam / phone contract?
They want you to pay £206 ( half price ) to buy the phone on a 2 year contract and the phones remain the property of Sillarys. Failure to return the device to them will mean that you the advisor is responsible for the balance of the device cost. i.e. another £206
Two of the advantages of the new contract is that you get itemised billing and the payments will come out of your commission. Some advantage!
My phone works OK on the old vodaphone contract which has passed its 2 year contract a long time ago.
Why are Sillarys always trying to screw money out of us.
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Post by owl on Nov 10, 2007 12:01:39 GMT
I have refused to pay for something i dont own, half price or not. Is it half price because it only comes in yellow, ginger, or purple!!!
If they want me to have it, then they pay for it , or I own it.
Failing that I will keep the 2 VF devices and you can still run on the old contract price.
It just gets better!!!
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Post by dibs on Nov 10, 2007 15:34:50 GMT
It does look suspicious, the devil is in the detail (the detail we don't get to see).
Why is the new contract with "BT & Hillarys"? Since when are they in the phone contract business. I suspect there are two contracts here, one with BT and Hillarys, and one with Hillarys and us. Somehow Hillarys are making on this new deal, to our cost!
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Post by ade on Nov 10, 2007 20:55:03 GMT
Yes I thought this looked good at first until I read the bit about they own half and if I leave will have to pay the other half and return the handset,will be ringing up on Monday to find out what they are playing at, my cotract ran out 6 months ago still paying the same, quite happy with the Vodaphone conract, my handset is a bit dodgy rang up a month ago and they told me I would have to pay £206, but I would get a better deal on Ebay as a lot of advisrs are leaving and selling their handsets,what is the advantage of them taking the payment out of our Commission, are they taking a cut from us, 900 £2 add up to a lot of money a month, can we offset this against tax, this must affect our self emplyment status, they are treading a thin line me thinks
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Post by keenasmustard on Nov 12, 2007 14:40:46 GMT
Yes I thought this looked good at first until I read the bit about they own half and if I leave will have to pay the other half and return the handset,will be ringing up on Monday to find out what they are playing at, my cotract ran out 6 months ago still paying the same, quite happy with the Vodaphone conract, my handset is a bit dodgy rang up a month ago and they told me I would have to pay £206, but I would get a better deal on Ebay as a lot of advisrs are leaving and selling their handsets,what is the advantage of them taking the payment out of our Commission, are they taking a cut from us, 900 £2 add up to a lot of money a month, can we offset this against tax, this must affect our self emplyment status, they are treading a thin line me thinks Ade another hillarys con trick,if they keep this up everyone will just resort to paper orders,apart from the brown-nosing duo ;D |
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Post by thelloydgang on Nov 12, 2007 15:56:35 GMT
Yes I thought this looked good at first until I read the bit about they own half and if I leave will have to pay the other half and return the handset,will be ringing up on Monday to find out what they are playing at, my cotract ran out 6 months ago still paying the same, quite happy with the Vodaphone conract, my handset is a bit dodgy rang up a month ago and they told me I would have to pay £206, but I would get a better deal on Ebay as a lot of advisrs are leaving and selling their handsets,what is the advantage of them taking the payment out of our Commission, are they taking a cut from us, 900 £2 add up to a lot of money a month, can we offset this against tax, this must affect our self emplyment status, they are treading a thin line me thinks Ade another hillarys con trick,if they keep this up everyone will just resort to paper orders,apart from the brown-nosing duo ;D Grow Up!  |
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Post by Russell on Nov 12, 2007 18:10:33 GMT
Yes I thought this looked good at first until I read the bit about they own half and if I leave will have to pay the other half and return the handset,will be ringing up on Monday to find out what they are playing at, my cotract ran out 6 months ago still paying the same, quite happy with the Vodaphone conract, my handset is a bit dodgy rang up a month ago and they told me I would have to pay £206, but I would get a better deal on Ebay as a lot of advisrs are leaving and selling their handsets,what is the advantage of them taking the payment out of our Commission, are they taking a cut from us, 900 £2 add up to a lot of money a month, can we offset this against tax, this must affect our self emplyment status, they are treading a thin line me thinks Ade another hillarys con trick,if they keep this up everyone will just resort to paper orders,apart from the brown-nosing duo ;D Better being a brown noser than a yellow loser like you son . |
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Post by ade on Nov 12, 2007 19:48:55 GMT
Russell, what do you think of this new contract, what is the advantage to us of having the payment taken from our commission?? When I first got SAM thought it was the right move forward, now I don't know is it a Con  Ade |
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Post by Russell on Nov 12, 2007 20:02:38 GMT
Russell, what do you think of this new contract, what is the advantage to us of having the payment taken from our commission?? When I first got SAM thought it was the right move forward, now I don't know is it a Con Ade Sounds like a rip off to me .Ive stayed on the old voda contract and will for as long as I can but as always theres not much we can do about it short and curleys come to mind. |
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Post by blue van man on Nov 12, 2007 20:15:34 GMT
another hillarys con trick,if they keep this up everyone will just resort to paper orders,apart from the brown-nosing duo ;D Make that trio....... the sooner I can get back on to SAM the better. I'd got to the point of doing over 90% of my orders on SAM. No queries, no checking paperwork and faxing in, no bored girls typing in wrong controls, no rejected credit cards, no miss-spelt names, no transposed numbers, no wrong fit dates. As part of SPD, nothing goes through SAM. Even the small amount of core work doesn't because I have different accounts for different counties. So instead, I lug a massive amount of order pads around, not just all the normal verts/curved/romans/pleated etc but B20 roof, H20 roof, perfect fit, awnings, shutters, shutters surveys sheets, and an inch thick price list. Sooner I'm back to electronic the better |
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Post by Mr Blind Spot on Nov 12, 2007 22:10:28 GMT
I think SAM is great too, and would hate to be without it. Even with its serious impracticalities.
However the whole concept seems to be evolving into something a little more sinister, it should be a business tool, not a money spinner! Sad to say this seems to be indicative.
I will not put anymore of my funds into SAM, I will go back to paper.
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Post by grumperbear on Nov 15, 2007 15:54:33 GMT
l heard that Sillarys got a deal with BT and got the phones at half price. i.e £206
Sillarys tell us that they are subsidising 50% of the cost of this device.
lt would appear that they are getting the phone for £206
Charging the advisor £206 (only on loan to you)
lf you don't return the phone to them they will charge you another £206
and they will still claim that they are subsidising the cost by 50%.
All sounds like another Sillarys money making racket.
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Post by thelloydgang on Nov 15, 2007 18:09:23 GMT
l heard that Sillarys got a deal with BT and got the phones at half price. i.e £206 Sillarys tell us that they are subsidising 50% of the cost of this device. lt would appear that they are getting the phone for £206 Charging the advisor £206 (only on loan to you) lf you don't return the phone to them they will charge you another £206 and they will still claim that they are subsidising the cost by 50%. All sounds like another Sillarys money making racket. Where did you hear this then GB? Who's your source then? K  |
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Post by grumperbear on Nov 15, 2007 21:39:29 GMT
lf l told you, and it got out.............them that told me would not be amused.
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