FSM Actions

[blindmansam]

I have cause to complain !

Whilst inside a customers home for an hour or so getting a decent sized order , i noticed a car parked outside with a suspicious person inside it , whom kept looking in , and made me so concerned i notified the customer .

On leaving that call , the person made itself known to me as my FSM. As i've never met this person before i was rather shocked at thier approach !

A rather un-nerving meeting followed where my vehicle was searched and the contents of my kit bag viewed . I ask you why ?

Is the behaviour the standard way an FSM introduces itself to you?

The actions i describe are totally true , and i can see that this amounts to 'stalking' . Its Very un-professional of Hillary's , and the FSM obviously planned this having access to my sales call diary . This person wasted thier whole morning on a roadside 20 min 'chat' with me .

I take a dim view of all this , and now feel i cannot comply with future 'demands' from this person with poor man-management skills.


Please post comments . I want to find out if this action by FSM is tollerable with other advisors.

[Mr Blind Spot]

blindmansam said:

I have cause to complain !

Whilst inside a customers home for an hour or so getting a decent sized order , i noticed a car parked outside with a suspicious person inside it , whom kept looking in , and made me so concerned i notified the customer .

On leaving that call , the person made itself known to me as my FSM. As i've never met this person before i was rather shocked at thier approach !

A rather un-nerving meeting followed where my vehicle was searched and the contents of my kit bag viewed . I ask you why ?

Is the behaviour the standard way an FSM introduces itself to you?

The actions i describe are totally true , and i can see that this amounts to 'stalking' . Its Very un-professional of Hillary's , and the FSM obviously planned this having access to my sales call diary . This person wasted thier whole morning on a roadside 20 min 'chat' with me .

I take a dim view of all this , and now feel i cannot comply with future 'demands' from this idiot .


Please post comments . I want to find out if this action by FSM is tollerable with other advisors.

In my mind this behavior is totally unacceptable, but not unbelievable.

If this happened to me I would tell him/her were to go, and absolutely refuse on principle. They have no right to demand that, and you have every right to refuse.

[Russell]

blindmansam said:

I have cause to complain !

Whilst inside a customers home for an hour or so getting a decent sized order , i noticed a car parked outside with a suspicious person inside it , whom kept looking in , and made me so concerned i notified the customer .

On leaving that call , the person made itself known to me as my FSM. As i've never met this person before i was rather shocked at thier approach !

A rather un-nerving meeting followed where my vehicle was searched and the contents of my kit bag viewed . I ask you why ?

Is the behaviour the standard way an FSM introduces itself to you?

The actions i describe are totally true , and i can see that this amounts to 'stalking' . Its Very un-professional of Hillary's , and the FSM obviously planned this having access to my sales call diary . This person wasted thier whole morning on a roadside 20 min 'chat' with me .

I take a dim view of all this , and now feel i cannot comply with future 'demands' from this idiot .


Please post comments . I want to find out if this action by FSM is tollerable with other advisors.

That is outrageous ! only a policeman/woman has the right of search but it would make your life difficult I suppose if you refused.

[dibs]

This is so incredulous, that I am slightly suspicious if it is actually true.

Its certainly something I would not allow to happen.

Here is a link that may be of use to some.

banksidecommercial.com/services_termination.html

My experience is that most fsm's will say anything to achieve what they want, this would include lies and deception. Any thing they refer to as current Hillary's policy, take with a pinch of salt. Hillary's policy changes every year or so, and the goal posts move with it. I run my business the way it suits me, I have virtually given up on Hillary's choosing to have any sort of dialogue.

[blue van man]

He has no legal right to search you or your vehicle, but with the Hillarys set-up, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Allowing him to search, he thinks he's got the upper hand, not allowing would mean you lose all your leads. Did he give any reason? Presumably he thinks you're dual trading, but what have you done that would make him think that?

I find it amazing that anyone with such poor man management skills can still get/keep a job that depends on a good working relationship for success.

[loneranger]

des said:

He has no legal right to search you or your vehicle, but with the Hillarys set-up, you're d**ned if you do, d**ned if you don't.
Allowing him to search, he thinks he's got the upper hand, not allowing would mean you lose all your leads. Did he give any reason? Presumably he thinks you're dual trading, but what have you done that would make him think that?

I find it amazing that anyone with such poor man management skills can still get/keep a job that depends on a good working relationship for success.

This is where the "self employed" principle falls down.

We might have thought that it gave us more power than if we had been "employed". If we HAD been employed, they would have to go down the disciplinary and warning route prior to dismissal. As it stands, they can come up with any hairbrained ideas and claim that it is "compnay policy" and if we don't conform, they either terminate the agency there and then, or they assiduously reduce the number of leads and/or start a new advisor(s) in the area. Job done.

They are control freaks and a law unto themselves.

As Blue Van Man says, it is "amazing that anyone with such poor man management skills can still get/keep a job that depends on a good working relationships".

It is not only amazing, it is downright terrifying.

Your life (and your living) in their hands.

[blindmansam]

dibs said:

This is so incredulous, that I am slightly suspicious if it is actually true.

Its certainly something I would not allow to happen.

Here is a link that may be of use to some.

banksidecommercial.com/services_termination.html

My experience is that most fsm's will say anything to achieve what they want, this would include lies and deception. Any thing they refer to as current Hillary's policy, take with a pinch of salt. Hillary's policy changes every year or so, and the goal posts move with it. I run my business the way it suits me, I have virtually given up on Hillary's choosing to have any sort of dialogue.

The report i posted is 100% Factual .

If you want the customers details of the house i was in when it happened , a phone call would bear me out !

[blindmansam]

des said:

He has no legal right to search you or your vehicle, but with the Hillarys set-up, you're d**ned if you do, d**ned if you don't.
Allowing him to search, he thinks he's got the upper hand, not allowing would mean you lose all your leads. Did he give any reason? Presumably he thinks you're dual trading, but what have you done that would make him think that?

I find it amazing that anyone with such poor man management skills can still get/keep a job that depends on a good working relationship for success.

If FSM is checking me out , i can only assume it's due to my 'avoidance' of it's contact .

I have been left totally 'alone' for over a year , then this FSM comes along to turn up the heat.

I can survive with out 'help' from FSM , Indeed i can prove that with FSM 'help' in the past , my postcodes have been altered, my diary slots manipulated , other agents allowed to roam in 'my' patch , and my business driven down to an all time low.


I have absolutely no faith in what FSM says and preaches. Goal posts are moved at will !

So, i do what i feel is needed and works best for me - i have a family to feed and a mortgage to pay !

[lukan61]

Whats the point of these FSMs? Al they do is wind us up!

[heath]

I have a very good FSM that is very supportive and helpful. She returns my calls, sorts my problems out and doesn't hastle me. We have team meetings and operates in a very professional way. Maybe I'm just lucky, but she is a star!

[advisorcaptain]

After reading the first thread in this post i cant believe that any FSM would decide to waste his/her time waiting for an advisor to check their sample packs after a sales call unless they had a very good reason. They, like us, have much better things to do with their time.

I have been with Hillarys for about 7 years and have had nothing but great FSM's. Maybe you just have to try and get along with them instead of finding reasons not to?

Just my 2 cents worth....

[lukan61]

The last fsm I had wouldn't know a blind if it hit her on her big soft head. good at doing graphs & such like tho! But as amanager about as good as that silly D8 headrail they use. Ha ha!!

[weekly]

"She" has also been known to get a little to close to her advisors on occasion. If you have the guts ask her if she has been to south africa lately

[loneranger]

Sept 23, 2008 7:17:30 GMT @weekly said:

"She" has also been known to get a little to close to her advisors on occasion. If you have the guts ask her if she has been to south africa lately

Fair enough, but what did the South Africans ever do for us ?

[weekly]

Do you know or did you know any South African advisors???
Nudge nudge wink wink